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. >> senator coburn says the pentagon needs to stop being what he calls department of everything. he says the savings wouldn't be huge. $6 billion a year but there was a time when it was real money. chris? >> chris: there was a time, wendell. thank you. reporting from the white house. stocks were down again today, the dow lost 28.5. the s&p 500 dropped 2. nasdaq fell 10. south africa president pushing back from comments from a lawmaker critical of lack of leadership in face of widespread worker strikes. president zuma called the claim totally out of order and said the leadership comes in many different forms. senior foreign affairs correspondent greg palkot looks at the continued turmoil in south africa and what is behind it. >> there were violent protests in south africa this week. striking farm workers clash with police, which left one person dead and several injured. >> this came after months of trouble between striking miners. 34 protesters were killed by police at a mine in august. it's the worth violence sense the end of apartheid in south africa 18 years ago. experts say th
. >> senator coburn says the pentagon needs to stop being what he calls department of everything. he says the savings wouldn't be huge. $6 billion a year but there was a time when it was real money. chris? >> chris: there was a time, wendell. thank you. reporting from the white house. stocks were down again today, the dow lost 28.5. the s&p 500 dropped 2. nasdaq fell 10. south africa president pushing back from comments from a lawmaker critical of lack of leadership in face of...
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here is the latest from the pentagon on the petraeus scandal. first let's get to katherine who is live in washington. katherine, the scope of all of this is pretty unusual. >> well those two classified hearings bring together the government's top intelligence and law enforcement officials. what was clear was the president's comments on ambassador susan rice is really getting some traction. one republican alleging that, quote, the president misinformed and lied to the american people over the benghazi affair. what was also clear is that the president wants to promote ambassador susan rice. even though she said benghazi was a spontaneous attack when it seemed clear it was terrorism. >> president obama has the gal to float the name of secretary of state, the name of the person who is the actual vehicle used to misinform the person disash dasht american people during this crisis. >> that's a reference to ambassador rice's appearance less than a week after the benghazi attack. the republicans charge that the story was not that strays forward and rice
here is the latest from the pentagon on the petraeus scandal. first let's get to katherine who is live in washington. katherine, the scope of all of this is pretty unusual. >> well those two classified hearings bring together the government's top intelligence and law enforcement officials. what was clear was the president's comments on ambassador susan rice is really getting some traction. one republican alleging that, quote, the president misinformed and lied to the american people over...
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put out a statement yesterday that sounded very confident that once he feels like people review the pentagon inspector general ends up reviewing the e-mails, they'll find there's nothing egregrious there. that may end up being the case. you're seeing a defense secretary now sort of cast a wide net and send aid very clear message that if this kind of thing is going on among other flag officers, senior officers, that it needs to be fixed immediately. >> so i think, suzanne, one of the things so many people have been astounded at when the they hear about two four-star generals involved is the access that these women, jill kelley and paula broadwell seemed to have to them. have they had their wings clipped? >> well, this is such a fascinating discussion in so many different directions you can take on it. it was great reporting from kyra phillips that you just played a few minutes ago. there are still some really tough questions even for general petraeus. he didn't come public about this. he didn't come clean. he didn't start apologizing till after he was caught. i think we do have to offer a lit
put out a statement yesterday that sounded very confident that once he feels like people review the pentagon inspector general ends up reviewing the e-mails, they'll find there's nothing egregrious there. that may end up being the case. you're seeing a defense secretary now sort of cast a wide net and send aid very clear message that if this kind of thing is going on among other flag officers, senior officers, that it needs to be fixed immediately. >> so i think, suzanne, one of the...
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. >> holman: that investigation also has led to a pentagon probe of the top u.s. commander in afghanistan-- marine general john allen. he's under scrutiny for extensive communications with a tampa, florida woman. allen has denied wrongdoing. defense secretary leon panetta said today no other senior military officials appear to be involved. he spoke during a trip to thailand. >> i'm not aware of any others that could be involved in this issue at the present time. obviously as this matter continues to be investigated both on capitol hill and by the inspector general, i'm sure we'll have to wait and see what additional factors are brought to our attention. >> holman: panetta now has ordered an ethics review for military officers. he said he's asked the joint chiefs of staff to re-examine the training of senior commanders, to avoid similar incidents in the future. the 17-member nations of the eurozone have fallen back into recession for the first time in three years. from july to september the eurozone's economy contracted by a tenth of a percent. that was the second
. >> holman: that investigation also has led to a pentagon probe of the top u.s. commander in afghanistan-- marine general john allen. he's under scrutiny for extensive communications with a tampa, florida woman. allen has denied wrongdoing. defense secretary leon panetta said today no other senior military officials appear to be involved. he spoke during a trip to thailand. >> i'm not aware of any others that could be involved in this issue at the present time. obviously as this...
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martha: national security correspondent general fir griffin joins us live from the pentagon. jennifer, where does this investigation into general john allen stand at this point? >> reporter: as you mentionedded david petraeus will be on the hill tomorrow morning at 7:30 in front of the house intel tell committee. he will not speak of the affair with paula broadwell but talk about benghazi. john allen investigation remains in the hands of the dod inspector general. that investigation is still going on. the president expressed confidence in his top general yesterday at that press conference and the pentagon will not specifically characterize the 20,000 pages of e-mails between general allen and tampa socialite jill kelley. sources familiar with the e-mail traffic say they are not as innocuous as some of general allen's backers suggested. we are told some of the exchanges are the equivalent of phone sex. general allen denies having a sexual relationship with kelley, martha. martha: he said he was never alone in a room with her but there are a lot of questions as you point out wh
martha: national security correspondent general fir griffin joins us live from the pentagon. jennifer, where does this investigation into general john allen stand at this point? >> reporter: as you mentionedded david petraeus will be on the hill tomorrow morning at 7:30 in front of the house intel tell committee. he will not speak of the affair with paula broadwell but talk about benghazi. john allen investigation remains in the hands of the dod inspector general. that investigation is...
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barbara starr joins us from the pentagon. not just petraeus but other cases that i guess have precipitated panetta's response. right? >> reporter: absolutely, fredericka. of course, general john allen, the commander in afghanistan under review, investigation for sending potentially inappropriate e-mails, two other four-stars just went through investigations for irregularities in the travel and expense accounts. a number of lesser if there's such a thing of generals and admirals also in recent months under investigation for variety of things, so panetta's issued an order saying that he wants the joint chiefs of staffs to look at ethic training for senior nil tear leaders. what are we talking about here? basically, you know, don't cheat on your wife. don't cheat on your taxes. don't go get too drunk in public. you know? and don't cheat on your expense account. you think it's the blinding flash of the obvious, wouldn't you? but we have talked to a number of officials say panetta is just very aware of the public perception right
barbara starr joins us from the pentagon. not just petraeus but other cases that i guess have precipitated panetta's response. right? >> reporter: absolutely, fredericka. of course, general john allen, the commander in afghanistan under review, investigation for sending potentially inappropriate e-mails, two other four-stars just went through investigations for irregularities in the travel and expense accounts. a number of lesser if there's such a thing of generals and admirals also in...
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the state department, the pentagon and the cia and the question who is responsible for what happened that night in libya for preventing and failing to prevent what happened. and the report is that general petraeus wanted to get out there aggressively in defense of the cia and ultimately did by release that time line and the intel officials were not too happy with petraeus and the suggestion is suddenly when they became unhappy about what he started to do on libya to defend the cia, suddenly his affair was a deal breaker. suddenly that went up to the upper etch lons and clapper told him he needed to resign and petraeus wanted to keep his job but did what his boss told him to do which was resign. does that make sense to you? is that feasible? >> you are not the on person saying it. megyn: i'm not saying it at all. the "wall street journal" is saying it. >> charles krauthammer made a similar statement. maybe the thing that was being held as the sword of damocles was the preknowledge of this. i don't know. that's all speculation. here is the point i was trying to make before the break. t
the state department, the pentagon and the cia and the question who is responsible for what happened that night in libya for preventing and failing to prevent what happened. and the report is that general petraeus wanted to get out there aggressively in defense of the cia and ultimately did by release that time line and the intel officials were not too happy with petraeus and the suggestion is suddenly when they became unhappy about what he started to do on libya to defend the cia, suddenly his...
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pentagon correspondent barbara starr broke this story just a short time ago. barbara, what is the former cia director expected to say? >> well, kate and wolf. i have spoken to a source, a long-standing source of mine who is close to petraeus, someone who is not a junior aide. petraeus wants to go to the capitol hill and clear this up. that petraeus, as cia director, knew almost immediately, that's how the source characterizes it, that al qaeda sympathizer group in libya was behind the attack. but the confusion emerged very quickly, as well. because petraeus and the cia had about 20 different intelligence reports, we are told, that indicated it was due to that anti-islamic film back in cairo that had sparked the riots. so, what you have here are two questions on the table. who is responsible and what was their motivation? what we now understand is petraeus will tell the committee those 20 reports or so about the it being a spontaneous riot because people objected to the film. those reports were disproved over time. but not until after petraeus made that initial
pentagon correspondent barbara starr broke this story just a short time ago. barbara, what is the former cia director expected to say? >> well, kate and wolf. i have spoken to a source, a long-standing source of mine who is close to petraeus, someone who is not a junior aide. petraeus wants to go to the capitol hill and clear this up. that petraeus, as cia director, knew almost immediately, that's how the source characterizes it, that al qaeda sympathizer group in libya was behind the...
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jennifer griffin live at the pentagon. when exactly will petraeus meet with the lawmakers and do we know where? >> it's a good question. first of all, as you mentioned, they are going to be having house and senate intel committee hearings today. mike morell, the acting director of the c.i.a., will be speaking to lawmakers during those hearings. david petraeus will not be attending those hearings today. we understand that he will be on capitol hill tomorrow before the house select intelligence committee. that's mike rogers, congressman mike rogers' committee, at 7:30 tomorrow morning. on friday, david petraeus is scheduled to appear before that committee. we understand he will not be addressing the f.b.i. investigation that led to his affair, but that he will be talking about benghazi exclusively and what happened there. meanwhile, the f.b.i. is still investigating how paula broadwell, his mistress, ended up with so many classified documents at her home in north carolina. agents, f.b.i. agents returned to her home on monday
jennifer griffin live at the pentagon. when exactly will petraeus meet with the lawmakers and do we know where? >> it's a good question. first of all, as you mentioned, they are going to be having house and senate intel committee hearings today. mike morell, the acting director of the c.i.a., will be speaking to lawmakers during those hearings. david petraeus will not be attending those hearings today. we understand that he will be on capitol hill tomorrow before the house select...